A question on how to transfer a domain

[chinasaint]

Hey, all DF guys
I have a domain that registered with GODADDY by my USA friend, he gave its ownership to me.
Now, it will expier, i just want to transfer it to China registar so that i can renew it myself.
I don't want to bother my American friend to renew any more, it make me feel embarrassed:o he is a nice guy and has already paid for a year:D

What shall I do?

[Apsylum]

Dosen't he have to transfer it from his registar to yours? Someone verify this, because I'm not 100% sure

[chinasaint]

Dosen't he have to transfer it from his registar to yours? Someone verify this, because I'm not 100% sure
He is not sure how to transfer it from USA to CN, so I come here for help;)
maybe I need to contact CN registars to do that.
BTW, if a domain expires, does it have a protection period? how long?:confused:

[mystwoman]

well hmmn. i would call godaddy customer service on this one. Is there an english language chinese registar?

[chinasaint]

well hmmn. i would call godaddy customer service on this one. Is there an english language chinese registar?
hmmm, i guess chinese registar doesn't have EN language, cuz they only serve cn customers.
Also I don't think any western ppl would register a domain with CN registar, haha:D

[sjaguar13]

You need your friend to log into Godaddy and unlock the domain. Then, go to whatever registrar you want and submit a transfer for that domain. Godaddy will get the request and email your friend to make sure everything is right. After that, the domain will then transfer to your regisrar, and you will probably have to accept the transfer. Once accepted, the domain is offically yours.

[chinasaint]

I can login godaddy, cuz my friend has transfered its ownership to me :)
so i have unlocked it.
I have a cn frind who is a resller of a CN registar to submit for me, but he said that the submission can to be done after the domain expire, so he told me to wait.
hmmm, i have to wait, but it can't be done immediately, i am not sure if i will lost the domain when it expires.

[sjaguar13]

When the domain expires, you have 30 days or so to get it back without any problems, called the Redemption Grace Period. Even though you are the only one who can register the domain during that time, you must go through the register that you've been using. Once you get it back, you can then transfer it. If a domain is expiring in a few days, you cannot transfer it. You have to renew it for another year, then transfer.

[chinasaint]

Thanks, it seems that I have to ask my friend renew again for a year then tranfer it? I don't have CC.
oh, he will pay to godaddy again and I will pay to cn new registar also for a year fee?

[sjaguar13]

Yeah, he would have to renew it for another year. You will have to pay a transfer fee, but more than likely, it will another year on to it. When you get the domain in your Chinese registrar, it won't expire for 2 years (1 year from the Godaddy renewal, and 1 year from the transfer).

[mystwoman]

wow can't he just get it pushed to the chinese nameservers?

[sjaguar13]

wow can't he just get it pushed to the chinese nameservers?
No, it takes a couple days for it to change and it can't expire during that time. To be cautious, the domain won't be allowed to be transfered if there is less than about 7 days before expiration. If there is less, it has to be renewed at the current register first, then transfered.

[hellboy911]

why cant he just renew the domain on godaddy ? *confused*

[sjaguar13]

why cant he just renew the domain on godaddy ? *confused*

Hey, all DF guys
I have a domain that registered with GODADDY by my USA friend, he gave its ownership to me.
Now, it will expier, i just want to transfer it to China registar so that i can renew it myself.

He could, but he doesn't have a credit card. Plus, he's Chinese and wants in in a Chinese registrar.

[mystwoman]

then i would suggest bundling the extra cost and some consideration into the purchase price. Not even Paypal?

[sjaguar13]

He already owns the domain.

[hellboy911]

sjaguar13: we know that...
mystwoman: weard if he dont have paypal, i thought everyone had it ? atleast everyone that buy and sell domains and hosts ?

[sjaguar13]

sjaguar13: we know that...
mystwoman: weard if he dont have paypal, i thought everyone had it ? atleast everyone that buy and sell domains and hosts ?
I was talking to MystWoman. She said to factor the extra cost into the domain, but he already owns the domain. Second, a lot of people don't use Paypal. All the domains I sell, unless I sell them on eBay or a forum, or paid for with a check. Plus, he's Chinese, doesn't have a credit card, and doesn't own a lot of domains. What's so weird about not having Paypal.

[mystwoman]

i guess in China maybe it's not so common. Wouldn't godaddy have an international lingual agency or something to help out with this? he can't be the first one.

[-JJ-]

Not everyone has a PayPal Account. You can have a credit card or bank account without PayPal and still do business online. There is nothing wrong with it.

-JJ-

[mystwoman]

you can charge to paypal too. i wonder why that didn't work, unless he doesn't have a cc. But he could get one of those prepaid ones .

[chinasaint]

Yeah, he would have to renew it for another year. You will have to pay a transfer fee, but more than likely, it will another year on to it. When you get the domain in your Chinese registrar, it won't expire for 2 years (1 year from the Godaddy renewal, and 1 year from the transfer).
aha, it means i can use the domain for 2 years.
but if my friend renews it and I also pay cn registar, after the transfer done, where shall i login to manage it, godaddy or cn registar site.

maybe in the 1st year, i still login godaddy to manage it, then 2nd year, i login to cn registar site?

[mystwoman]

well, can you manage it that way forever and save yourself the hassle?

[sjaguar13]

aha, it means i can use the domain for 2 years.
but if my friend renews it and I also pay cn registar, after the transfer done, where shall i login to manage it, godaddy or cn registar site.

maybe in the 1st year, i still login godaddy to manage it, then 2nd year, i login to cn registar site?
You could renew it with GoDaddy and manage it with them for a while. Then transfer the domain to your CN registrar and being managing it with them, but you want to make sure you transfer the domain while it still has some time left, or else you end up back in the same position, it expires too soon to transfer.

[Corptex]

Hi,

Thanks all here for your gracious help in the matter.

I purchased the domain for ChinaSaint at GoDaddy. I then had him set up his own account at GoDaddy and I transferred the domain ownership to him at his GoDaddy acount. So ChinaSaint owns the domain at GoDaddy and he has access to the domain's CP, I don't.

The problem, which I knew of before-hand, was that it is impossible for ChinaSaint, in China, to pay GoDaddy, in the USA. The Chinese government works differently and funds cannot be so easily exchanged. Therefore, ChinaSaint wishes the domain to be located at a Chinese registrar so he can actually pay for it. Payment methods in China are through Chinese bank transfers - which are unaccepted by USA companies. Very few (usually very rich) Chinese citizens have PayPal or Credit Card ability. There is no possible way for an average Chinese citizen to purchase abroad.

When ChinaSaint has the domain in a Chinese registrar's account, THEN he really owns the domain because he can pay for it himself, transferring funds to the Chinese registrar through his Chinese bank account.

I believe GoDaddy has a policy wher you cannot transfer a domain to another registrar within 30 days of expiration (nor within 60 days of aquisition). I'm not exacly certain; it may only be the 7 days someone mentioned here, but I believe it is 30 days.

What *should* have happened is that the domain should have been transferred to a Chinese registrar already, to avoid the confusion of letting it expire, or whatever.

I think the best solution here is for me to pay the renewal for another year at GoDaddy with my CC, and then ChinaSaint will have plenty of time to find the best way to transfer the domain from a USA registrar to a Chinese registrar. This would certainly be more cost-effective, and since ChinaSaint is a friend and business partner of mine, I don't think the renewal price is very significant ;)

I could also pay by PayPal - whichever is more convenient. I think in most situations like these, it's probably best to pay by PayPal, because the the person paying would have to login ito the domain owner's CP and put their CC info in. I haven't paid for a domain by PayPay, but I don't think as much sensitive on-file information would be required to do this.

In either event, the domain owner will have to allow the payer to access the domain account. Temporary password can be used.

Then ... NEXT TIME ... ChinaSaint can transfer his domain to another registrar BEFORE the expiry date :rolleyes:

- Richard Skenderian
Corptex

[sjaguar13]

That sounds like a good plan. It may be 30 days for GoDaddy. The only time I ever did it was going from NameCheap to GoDaddy and GoDaddy wouldn't accept it because it was expiring within 7 days. GoDaddy might have a different policy about how many days left. 30 seems kind of high, though, but they are pretty big. I guess they can set their own rules.

[Gayble]

Yep, that's GoDaddy for ya.

[hellboy911]

i dont like godaddy.

[Gayble]

I also don't like GoDaddy because they require a credit card :(

[chinasaint]

Hi,

Thanks all here for your gracious help in the matter.

I purchased the domain for ChinaSaint at GoDaddy. I then had him set up his own account at GoDaddy and I transferred the domain ownership to him at his GoDaddy acount. So ChinaSaint owns the domain at GoDaddy and he has access to the domain's CP, I don't.

The problem, which I knew of before-hand, was that it is impossible for ChinaSaint, in China, to pay GoDaddy, in the USA. The Chinese government works differently and funds cannot be so easily exchanged. Therefore, ChinaSaint wishes the domain to be located at a Chinese registrar so he can actually pay for it. Payment methods in China are through Chinese bank transfers - which are unaccepted by USA companies. Very few (usually very rich) Chinese citizens have PayPal or Credit Card ability. There is no possible way for an average Chinese citizen to purchase abroad.

When ChinaSaint has the domain in a Chinese registrar's account, THEN he really owns the domain because he can pay for it himself, transferring funds to the Chinese registrar through his Chinese bank account.

I believe GoDaddy has a policy wher you cannot transfer a domain to another registrar within 30 days of expiration (nor within 60 days of aquisition). I'm not exacly certain; it may only be the 7 days someone mentioned here, but I believe it is 30 days.

What *should* have happened is that the domain should have been transferred to a Chinese registrar already, to avoid the confusion of letting it expire, or whatever.

I think the best solution here is for me to pay the renewal for another year at GoDaddy with my CC, and then ChinaSaint will have plenty of time to find the best way to transfer the domain from a USA registrar to a Chinese registrar. This would certainly be more cost-effective, and since ChinaSaint is a friend and business partner of mine, I don't think the renewal price is very significant ;)

I could also pay by PayPal - whichever is more convenient. I think in most situations like these, it's probably best to pay by PayPal, because the the person paying would have to login ito the domain owner's CP and put their CC info in. I haven't paid for a domain by PayPay, but I don't think as much sensitive on-file information would be required to do this.

In either event, the domain owner will have to allow the payer to access the domain account. Temporary password can be used.

Then ... NEXT TIME ... ChinaSaint can transfer his domain to another registrar BEFORE the expiry date :rolleyes:

- Richard Skenderian
Corptex
woooooooooooooow, u also some here:D
yes, I just tell Mr.Richard, my good USA friend, I got warm-hearted help from you DF guys, so he comes here!

[Gayble]

It's always good to have more people here, thanks for inviting him! ;) I hope we can get to know Richard more :)

[chinasaint]

yes, he is a nice American guy who is running hosting companies, he bought domain for me and offers free hosting to me, we are closed friends since 2002!
If any of you guys need hosting, just contact him :)

[Gayble]

he's got quite a few good domains, and looks like a big time domainer, I'm sure he'd be a great member here at DF ;)

[chinasaint]

he's got quite a few good domains, and looks like a big time domainer, I'm sure he'd be a great member here at DF ;)
yes, he's a smart and nice guy, I wish he can find a great and right place for his domains, I recommended this forum to him, cuz u guys here are nice ppl.:D

[Gayble]

DomainForums is the perfect place for his domains ;)

[Apsylum]

Yeah, we need some more big time domainers here. We've got a lot of new people to the scene, myself included, but it'd be good to have more "elders".

[Gayble]

We need some teachers and mentors here, older people are great for these forums.

[-JJ-]

Yeah the younger generation is fun to talk too, but the older generation can surely teach us a lesson. That's what I was saying before. We need people like Myst to help us out. SJag is great with helping people out. When it comes to writing and computing I can help anyone out. Everyone has that special skill. ;)

-JJ-

[Apsylum]

Did you ever figure out how to get it transfered?

[Gayble]

Yeah the younger generation is fun to talk too, but the older generation can surely teach us a lesson. That's what I was saying before. We need people like Myst to help us out. SJag is great with helping people out. When it comes to writing and computing I can help anyone out. Everyone has that special skill. ;)

-JJ-

Yep, they say, the children are the key to the future :) with so many 12, 13, and 14 year olds already programming in PHP, vB, etc. I'd say why not :p

[mystwoman]

big time domainers HAVE looked at this site and analyzed it. if they are not here there is a reason.